Zak’s Defence – Key Notes for Meeting (Apologetic Tone)

Core defence lines

  • “I’ve been doing this job for 6 years — I know the process very well and I always follow it.”

  • “I’m 100% confident I pressed the button correctly, but if I didn't, I apologies for that. It was not misuse or recklessness.”

  • “Everyone knows these APNs are temperamental. They sometimes stop, restart, or switch off by themselves.”

On machine faults

  • “The CCTV shows the APN I left did not move. The collision happened because another APN failed to stop.”

  • “These machines are fitted with sensors that are meant to prevent this exact situation. If one still crashed into another stationary machine, that shows a system fault, not my fault.”

  • "When the machines crash like that, dont you have to restart them again anyway? How do you know I didnt press it and the APN stay stationary for no reason? That happens too"

  • “APNs have had collisions before — this isn’t the first time. That again shows it’s a machine reliability issue.

  • “These APNs stop and start, switch off, and behave unpredictably. Everyone knows this.”

  • If asked why he didn’t raise it:
    “Managers see this every day for themselves. It would be pointless raising the same issue every single day — it’s well known.”

  • If they say “but they don’t crash every day”:
    “Exactly — that proves it’s a system issue, not me. If the machines act the same every day, and only once in 6 years has there been a collision, it cannot be my fault.”

Vague allegations

  • If they say “careless behaviour” or “misuse,” respond:
    “Can you please explain exactly what behaviour you believe was careless, or what action of mine was misuse? I want to be clear on what I’m accused of.”

  • Follow up with:
    “Because all I did was follow the same process I’ve safely followed for 6 years.”

If they link phone use to “careless behaviour” or the collision

  • “Just to be clear, my phone use was separate to the incident. The CCTV shows the APN I left did not move — the collision was caused by another APN.”

  • “I’ve only ever used my phone for work purposes, to log pallet issues. I’ve done this openly for years, managers have seen it, and stock control rely on those notes.”

  • “I followed the same process as everyone else, including managers, and it’s no different to using the mobile scanners the company issues at the start of every shift.”

  • “If the company now want me to stop doing this, I will — but I want to be clear that my phone use had no bearing on the APN collision.”

If they say “using your phone around machinery is misuse or careless”

  • “I understand the concern, and if using my phone in that way is now considered misuse, I apologise. That was never my intention.”

  • “Butas long as I can remember it has been accepted practice — I’ve only ever used my phone for work reasons, not personal ones.”

  • “It was in line with what colleagues and managers also do, and again, no different than using the scanners we’re all issued with.”

  • “If this is now a change in policy, I’ll follow whatever process the company decides going forward.”

On the delay

  • “If this was seen as gross misconduct, I should have been taken off APNs immediately. Instead, I worked for almost 24 hours afterwards, on the same job. That suggests it wasn’t considered serious. Why is that?”

  • “If I had genuinely been unsafe, leaving me on the same role would have been a risk in itself.”

On refusal to tip trailers

  • “I did not refuse to work. I refused one task — trailer tipping — because of my back problems.”

  • “I accept I was frustrated when that came up, and I apologise for how that may have come across.”

  • “But my frustration wasn’t meant as misconduct — I immediately carried on with pallet work and helped my team.”

If they say “they don’t crash every day” argument

  • “Exactly — that proves it’s a system issue, not me. The machines act the same way every day. If there have only been a few collisions in 6 years, it shows this was down to the machines, not my behaviour.”

  • “I did nothing different that day to what I’ve done safely for 6 years.”

Final position

  • “At worst, this may have been a small slip or a machine fault. If I didn’t press the button long enough, then I accept that and I apologise — but I’m confident I pressed it properly.”

  • “I did not act recklessly or deliberately break rules. I worked as I always have, and I carried on working afterwards.”